Spirit of Omaha: Rush, Mr. Big, and Running a Company With Your Spouse

Cale

Corbett: Hey folks, Cale and Mindy here. We're back, back the two of us, I'm wearing my Got Peart shirt from just having come this past Friday to my second Rush show this year, and I'm hoping to see those guys again next year when they come back from Europe, maybe when you know, before they retire for good. if you're a fan of Rush and you missed your chance, look for any opportunity. They keep adding dates. And it's probably one of the best concerts I've been to in my entire life. And Mindy, as I was telling you, I met a guy named Max, who's about our kids' age, there in line in San Antonio this past weekend and r enjoyed hearing his stories and telling my story of how you and I didn't even know each other yet. We were at the same show, not didn't know that. You were there to see the opener. I was there not to see the opener. you stayed, you know, you stayed and saw Rush, right? And I didn't get there in time to see Mr. Big, as I recall. Mr. Mindy

Corbett: Mr. Big. Cale

Corbett: Big, right. and then not a couple of years later, three or four years later, we actually met one another, and I Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: didn't even hear that story from you until heck, I don't know, three, four years ago, something like that, more recently. Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: So I just I that was something I wanted to share with that guy Max because I thought that was so funny. Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: you know, 'cause he asked well he goes, so is your wife here? And I'm like and of course I had to make the joke of yeah, he's like, No, you know, she's she likes two rush songs and that's about it and she you know, I said, No, let me tell you a little story about that, you know, and that's when I launched into the Mr. Big, you know, two ships passing in the night kind of thing, you know, so yeah. Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, so full disclosure back, you know, during that time frame there in Omaha, you know, most of the shows are at the Civic Auditorium, which is, I mean, I don't Cale

Corbett: Mm. Mindy

Corbett: think it's gone now. It's been replaced by different concert venues over time. It might still be there, but it's not a concert venue anymore. Yeah. Cale

Corbett: Think the I think the building is still there. Why don't the Beef still play there or? Mindy

Corbett: Yeah, maybe so. Maybe so. I don't remember. But I mean, most of the concerts were at the Civic Auditorium Arena or the Civic Auditorium Music Hall. And Cale

Corbett: Mm. Mindy

Corbett: so this one happened to be at the Civic Auditorium Arena. And, you know, was a crap venue with crap sound, but that's where all the shows were. But what a lot of people Cale

Corbett: Yeah. Mindy

Corbett: don't know, unless you were around during that timeframe, and I'm not gonna say when, but if you know, you probably know, is the security there was Cale

Corbett: It had a nine in it. Mindy

Corbett: pretty lax and it was Cale

Corbett: Yeah. Mindy

Corbett: easy to meet bands back then. So the reality of what was going on during that time is I went with some friends because they had a friend of mine gave me her ticket because she had a migraine and couldn't go. So that was the reason why I ended up there. And I was like, yeah, sure. I'll go because Mr. Big is opening. And I loved Mr. Big because I was a huge Paul Gilbert fan. so if anybody doesn't know who that is, look it up Paul Gilbert. I was, yeah, we'll tell them that later. So I was a huge Cale

Corbett: They're still trying to figure out what the beef is, which we'll tell them a little bit in a in a moment, you know. Yeah. Mindy

Corbett: fan. we, you know, the thing with the Civic was, like I said, the security was pretty lax. So it was pretty easy to meet Cale

Corbett: Mm. Mindy

Corbett: bands. And so what ended up happening was I got up between Mr. Big being done and Rush coming on. And I went to get a drink, I guess, or a tee, no, I went to get a tee shirt. So I went to get a tee shirt. And I got my t-shirt and the band, Mr. Big was actually standing kind of just behind a curtain. You could kind of see him because it was partially open. And I Cale

Corbett: Right. Mindy

Corbett: did what I always did at concerts. And I went over by where the curtain was and, you know, they saw me and several other standing there and they opened up the curtain and started signing autographs. So I stood there for most of the time Rush was on stage. chatting with Mr. Big and getting autograph signs. So got a t-shirt, got that signed, got a guitar pick and stuff like that. So that's the reality of what I was doing while Rush was on. So that's my Cale

Corbett: well here Mindy

Corbett: Rush show experience. Cale

Corbett: Yeah, I can't fix you. It's too long ago. It's too many years in the past, that damage is done. the so going back one step, so if you know, we talked about the beef, the the Omaha beef, if you will, if they're still around, Mindy

Corbett: Omaha beef. I believe they are. Cale

Corbett: or were a bunch of semi pro, basically w fairly in shape dad types who played arena football in Civic center size rooms and it's a frickin' Mindy

Corbett: Yeah, dad mods with the football. Cale

Corbett: and it's a frickin' blast. I think they get paid what like fifty bucks a game, some crazy if they get paid. Mindy

Corbett: Do they get paid? Cale

Corbett: I think they I yeah, they do, because it's semi pro, so they get paid, you know, the dollar. They get paid pennies on the dollar to play tackle version of flag football, you know. And I went to several games as a you know, way back in I'm gonna say the early two thousands with Lloyd. And I'm telling you, I mean, is there's not a better ticket in town for the price than to watch a bunch of dads like us playing football. I mean, I gotta be honest, it was a good time. So whether or not they're still around, I don't know. But used to play at Mindy

Corbett: Yeah, it looks like they are. Cale

Corbett: the Civic, yeah. Mindy

Corbett: it looks like they still are based on the. So they play at Liberty First Credit Union Arena. the ranch Bowl? Cale

Corbett: if you if you wanna cry, sure. I'll let you give a shout out to the Ranch Bowl and Nick and Eric's and Mindy

Corbett: you Cale

Corbett: and the concert venue of your or we could move to something that's not gonna make you cry. It's really let's Mindy

Corbett: some of the best shows at the Ranch Bowl. Cale

Corbett: Well see, we're gonna do this real quick. We'll do a c we'll do a y your best show you saw there, I'll do my best show I saw there, and the folks will b get yet another view into the different parts of our music taste versus they have no idea where we overlap a lot, but they'll have no idea. So quick, no your best concert experience at Ranch Bowl go. Mindy

Corbett: England, Mom's team. Cale

Corbett: Ingvei moms. See, you and five you and the five other people who were there, I'm sure you had a great time. Mindy

Corbett: It was awesome. Cale

Corbett: Bare Naked Ladies 1996, like when they very first broke. That's my best. Mindy

Corbett: Wow. Cale

Corbett: and there were and there were probably thirty or forty. Now there are a lot of there were a lot of people there, we saw Ingvei what two years ago here in town. Mindy

Corbett: Yeah, about that. Yeah. Cale

Corbett: I really wish his sound guy should be fired, but that's a different story. Mindy

Corbett: Yeah, he thought so too. Cale

Corbett: Ying from what I can tell, Ying Vei himself was great, but the Sangai was bad. All right. Yes. Mindy

Corbett: Yeah, he said something about, I can't hear my bleeping guitar. Cale

Corbett: Yeah, 'cause he was he was giving the guy the business the whole show, you know. Mindy

Corbett: See ya. Cale

Corbett: But so hey, that's probably a horrible but effective segue into what we want to talk about today, in our episode. So we haven't titled this thing yet, but you'll see that we'll come up with the title when we're done putting it together. And we're probably gonna do two of these that are sort of similar, you know, we'll kinda we've got some we have enough to talk about here. It looks like we can kind of break this into episode one, episode two. But tonight we're gonna talk about you know The premise of our podcast is hey, two professionals who've got their own thing going, but we're working together. We've got one business organization that our two businesses live under. So we've got some of that back and forth the dynamics and the tension and all that. so we're gonna talk about communication and conflict resolution as two independent yet dependent business people sitting, you know, very close to one another. Talking about how we do our s hat switching from business mode to remembering that we've been married a long time and we love each other, right? You know, that that's part of the premise of this show. and then, you know, how we quote, fight fair when we're in that work mode, how we handle some of the where we might have disagreements about how to handle business stuff, which I guess in really in a way, we don't really have a lot of tension around the business aspect. I think we have more tension around How should we do this or that outreach or you know frankly, some of the stuff that's probably I'd rather we had tension about that than the big ticket stuff if I if I'm Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: speaking for me. we'll talk about like our individual roles and strengths like we've been like we've been teasing about. I want you to kind of talk us through how we're we do divide and conquer, like probably how we do it and how you probably would like to see us do it. better and by us I mean me and we'll and we can get real on that. And I want to kind of talk about I call it, you know, working for the man or woman. I want to kind of talk about it sitting from my perspective as your ops guy, how that's a challenge, wearing a different hat than I'm used to, and how I've been trying to be better and be more effective in that ops role as your guy, right? who's you know who's the boss? Right. we've got two different companies under one umbrella and there's I'll just tease you, think I'm trying to be the boss and I want no part of that. So we have to work on that. And then I think last for this week, you know, we have different ways of doing things. You know, we love each other tremendously, we thrive on our differences, but when it comes to how we work, when, where, how we work, we really do kind of come at it from different places. Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: And I know that can sometimes cause friction or frustration or at least you know, some eye rolling and some s you know and I'm talking about you, but yeah. You know, I'm in my office going you know, but same idea. So Mindy

Corbett: Roll my eyes. Cale

Corbett: I had to come back behind you and smack you on the back of the head once or twice to get to shake loose, as I recall. Mindy

Corbett: as I tried to stick. Cale

Corbett: that's it. That's it. So if people haven't completely if we didn't lose them at Russian Mr. Big, we're gonna carry through and see what we can cover tonight. how we continue and we're not perfect, but how we work through getting out of business mode and saying, look, we're done for the night. Let's try to remember that we're husband and wife. So let me kind of give you the chance to kind of begin that part and tell me how you see it. so far the last what nine or ten months we've been doing this. Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: Talk me through your perspective. when we switch hats when we're trying to transition from business partner mode to husband and wife mode, whether it's whether it's in the moment at night when we're supposed to stop working or whatever, Mindy

Corbett: sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cale

Corbett: how do we switch between business partners and husband and wife? Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. okay. So sure. it's, so that whole switch is very difficult. So for me, I very much prefer working from home, doing my own thing. But the one thing that I miss from being in an office is that transition from the office to home, because you have that time where, you know, I call it windshield time where you have some time to kind of gather your thoughts and be just in your head and not immediately have to shift into a different space. And so there is some difficulty for me because I have trouble sometimes context shifting. And so I like to have some time from work to me time to doing something else. And Cale has this weird ability or superpower or whatever you want to call it where he seems to be able to go straight from work to whatever else. And he, it's like he has no off switch and I'm trying to figure out how to pick myself up off the floor. And he's just like, go, And I've never been able to figure out how he does that. Like there is just absolutely like no transition period. So I think that, Cale

Corbett: It's invisible, it's internal. Mindy

Corbett: yeah, you must be like those ducks that are on the Cale

Corbett: Mm. Mindy

Corbett: water and their legs are going, their little feet are going like this because mine is very. Cale

Corbett: I just move the other direction. Yeah. Mindy

Corbett: because mine is very Cale

Corbett: Yeah. Mindy

Corbett: much external and it's very much like get out of my face. And he must just make it super quickly. Cause I don't know how you do that. Cause I can't, it's just absolutely insane to me that you're able to do that. So I think the strategy for me is finding a way to transition in a way that is quiet, is reflective, is introspective, is just me in my head for a little bit of time before I engage with other humans. Cale

Corbett: Yeah. well now I mean I I'm teasing, but you could get in the you could get in the car and drive around town, get a cup of coffee at Starbucks and come back home. I mean, that might count. that's and I was sort of teasing. Mindy

Corbett: but I also don't want to leave the house. Cale

Corbett: Well, you're gonna have to square that circle. I can't help you there. No amount Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: of superpower on my part's gonna help you with that. I appreciate you kind of talking through that. And I know I know this about you. I didn't know that you had this perception about how I do it. It's not quite so it's not quite so super power-ish as all that. I think you know the reality is it is it is quick switch, back and forth. It is go, until it's wall, Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: And you'll see me if I'm not running helter skelter straight at the wall and hit it, if Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: I If I see myself begin to flag before the wall, you usually see it first, and Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: you're just like, Well, you're about to hit your head on the there he goes. You know, he's Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Yep. Cale

Corbett: about to hit his head on the wall again, you know. So that's Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: my superpower, which is just being able to take on brick walls with my head and stand back up later. Mindy

Corbett: Yep. Yeah. Cale

Corbett: not the smartest thing to go, but that's just you know, me and my concussions think that's fine. Mindy

Corbett: Corbids don't take concussions. Cale

Corbett: Well that's true, we give concussions, that's right. Kinda like a kind of like a Chuck Norris thing, right? Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cale

Corbett: they yeah. That people are like, What? famously hard heads in our large and hard heads in our family. that's Mindy

Corbett: Trust me. Cale

Corbett: the that's the short version. Short, version. All right, so you know Mindy

Corbett: Yeah, I think I got a concussion once from a corbit head. Cale

Corbett: Well, I you weren't supposed to talk about that. We were this was years ago, we were in the kitchen. As I recall, we were in the kitchen, we were cooking dinner or something. It wasn't very safe in retrospect. We were horsing around or something and Mindy

Corbett: I think. Cale

Corbett: I made like I made like I Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: and I shot my head forward a little too far and it smacked Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: her right in the forehead so Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: hard that it made the poor woman see stars and she cried. And one of our sons was there at the time and he thought for sure that I had hurt you, hurt you, and had somehow done it on purpose. And he Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: was about to throw he was about to throw hands. And Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: he's yeah, and he's bigger than me. And so it would have been ugly, you know, Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: if he'd started windmilling on me, it could have been bad, but no, luckily, you know, it's like, No, You're like, No, he didn't mean to. He's like, you know, I have a forehead shaped dent or head in my head, but no, he didn't mean to, you know. Mindy

Corbett: It wasn't an accident, it hurt, but it wasn't Cale

Corbett: And then my yeah. Mindy

Corbett: an accident. Cale

Corbett: You know, my own near death experience is very similar to that, and that is, you know, you remember you know, my uncle Roger, bless you know, rest his soul. Yeah, I'm gonna say we it was wanna say it was around twenty two thousand twenty two, twenty three, we were on one of our visits, our summer or fall visits to Maine there to see him, and he was we were, you know, he and I were just talking in like the living room little dinner at that little house, and I walked I got back, I got up and I was walking to the kitchen to do something, and I walked past in that little couch where he was laying on that little love seat thing in the in that alcove there. He was laying there. Mindy

Corbett: Yeah, he was in his reading position. Cale

Corbett: Yeah, and I remember I made like I was gonna do this number. I made and he in a millisecond saw my head coming, and so he came at me hard. And Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: you know, he was seventy, I don't know, two at the time, let's say Mindy

Corbett: you Cale

Corbett: seventy-three. That man had a core. He brought his body up from flat Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: in less than a second and he had a shining light in his eye, he was ready. And if I hadn't Mindy

Corbett: I saw the devil in his eyes that day. yeah. Cale

Corbett: If I hadn't stopped short and pulled back just in time, he would have whacked me hard. And I in my mind's eye, I see like those two Rams, Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: you know, r busting skulls there, you know, on top of a mountain. I might Mindy

Corbett: huh. Cale

Corbett: have fallen. I might I won't say walked away, I might have crawled away from that one. But man, Mindy

Corbett: yeah. Cale

Corbett: I phew. I pulled back just in time and he laughed. Cause he saw it coming and he was ready. so believe me, I know what you're talking about. Mindy

Corbett: Yup. Cale

Corbett: So that's a another horrible segue. I love it. So as we are as we're working through together, one of the things that I know we have is we've each got strengths and weaknesses, right? You know, you've got a host of strengths that I don't have. you know, you've got a head for numbers and I have a head for concepts and themes. And we and we and we do complement one another when we're allowing it, we're collaborative, and we're not all for our little our little bubbles. What I wanna again, I want to kind of get your thoughts on where we've been good and where we might have growth opportunities, if you will, for dividing and conquering, splitting our responsibilities, you know, playing to our strengths and asking for help, frankly, for things we're not so strong on. So, you know, talk tell the tell the folks your thoughts on that. Mindy

Corbett: Well, think so as far as strengths go, think where you really kind of have the upper hand really in any situation is your ability to talk to people. mean, you just you'll say anything and talk to anybody and Cale

Corbett: Huh. Mindy

Corbett: you're happy to do it. I mean, there's days when you're on the phone all day long and I'm sitting in here going, good Lord. When is that going to end? I would want to die because I'm exhausted after one phone call. mean, it's fine. I don't mind talking to people if they're people I like. if they're, you know, if I'm getting, you know, getting good information out of it, or if I can share some things that is important to me, but I do not like initiating conversations. don't, I don't have that natural desire to go out and just conversations with people. It's not, it's not really a thing that I love. I Cale

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Mindy

Corbett: am a, an extreme introvert. I mean, to the point where it's, almost like obnoxious. But yeah, but, Cale

Corbett: I'd agree with that. Mindy

Corbett: yeah, but you are, it's just like, that is a huge strength when it comes to situations like we're put in sometimes and it is a huge failing of mine. And that is a difficult thing to get past. And then I think that you're also, you have big ideas and that can be super helpful in situations like what we're dealing with. So I think those are very, good strengths. Now for me, I suck at talking about my strengths. I don't always know what they are, but obviously I struggle with trying to reach out to people because I don't want to. Cale

Corbett: Yeah. Well, let's talk about that one for a second. You know, I don't want this to be a situation where you're talking about all the great things you know, about me, if you will, 'cause again, that dynamic of talking to people, it works until it doesn't when I'm when I'm staring at that brick wall in the face and I know I'm about to run into it and I can see my words, I can see the word count cutting down to double digits and on their way to single digits, like if I run out of what boom, I'm out of words. And then I'm like This call can't end fast enough. But Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: you know, it's but you're right. It's my s my threshold is way, higher than yours in that regard. And w I tease you all the time, you're you know, you just you know just shared here with these folks that being an introvert, being a person who's not necessarily the person who wants to go out there and engage in every room with every person, that's been one of the things that as your ops guy, as your business partner, as your biggest champion. I I'll say publicly, I struggle with your desire to not be seen, to not talk to people. I'm like, baby, you can't be a businesswoman hiding in your office under the couch. That just ain't gonna work. They're not gonna come throw their money under your door. You know, that's the that's the challenge that you We as business people supporting one another, we're gonna have to find that way for me to help you do that because I can't do it all for you, as we as we've said privately. And then at the same time, my need and my your desire of me is to not push you about it all the time. So we're gonna have to find that happy medium dynamic where you come out from under the metaphorical couch and I find a way to inspire you and support you to do so. We just haven't perfected that level yet, but we're working on it, you know. the one I was going to also kind of ask you about is you and I were talking about examples of where one of us, and it's when I say one of us, it's really it's me, taking on a responsibility you didn't ask me to take on. and my intentions can be completely golden and perfect, but if you didn't ask me to do it, just so happens your personality type is why is he in my sandbox messing around with my sand? Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: Why did he bring his stupid bucket over here to my sandbox? Get your get your bucket out of my sandbox, you Mindy

Corbett: Thank Cale

Corbett: know, take your take your Legos and go home, you punk. Whatever. and The example is, you know, this comes from earlier on this year when we were really trying to get our businesses stormed and normed, I might say. And I was going through my own work of really nailing down my ICP and my business personas, you know, who are who are my customers that I'm trying to target. And as I'm going through and doing that, frankly, that's not easy work. As I'm going through doing that work, I'm like, well, hell, let me try to I'll help Mindy while I'm doing mine. I'll start running some numbers on hers and I'll do some research on hers. And so I'm doing both of them at the same time. And I will go and I came back to you at one point and said, Hey, here's this nice, you know, buttoned up, you know, persona document for you. And you're like, I didn't ask you to do that. What the hell is this? Why are you trying to do my job? You're not my boss. we got into this rapid fire Mindy

Corbett: already did that. Cale

Corbett: right. and I'm like, Well, up yours and around the corner, sister. You know, but yeah. And it's because, frankly, if I had said, Hey, would you like me to do this for you, would have said, No, I got it or already did it. Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: and so I have to get over myself and say, just because you haven't told me you started this thing doesn't mean you have. And the flip side, frankly, in communication, it goes back a step, is you would want to tell me more often that you're doing a thing. And that's why This is a little pro tip for folks who are trying to navigate the same shark-infested water sheen I are doing without a net. That's a horrible metaphor. you had the idea of on Fridays having like a weekly wrap-up meeting, which I jumped on and was like, Yeah, that's awesome. Let's do that. We have to get consistent about doing that really great idea that you have. Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: That was yours, and I think that's fantastic. And that would be a place where we could cover that kind of information, right? You'd say, you don't need to do my ICP work for me because I just started that. Or, you know, hey, I'm doing my ICP, but man, I'd really like to have some help. Or can you tell me how you did yours or whatever? We have this grilly goofy way as two fairly smart people learning a dumb lesson and promising ourselves we'll never do it again. And so we'll go learn a whole new dumb lesson. Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: Because we don't we're not gonna learn that one again. We okay we got it. We're not gonna repeat stupid. We'll do a whole new kind of stupid all over the next time. Something Mindy

Corbett: Yeah, something new and stupid every day. Cale

Corbett: new and stupid every day. yeah, how we do that I don't know. now w one of the things we were talking about before we talked about, you know, who's the boss and the you know the dynamics and the way you and I tr have handled that in my mind is it's your business and it's my business. And for the most part, we don't tell each other how to run our respective businesses. We just try to boost and assist and consult, if you will, right? the boundary is a bit fluid from time to time, especially on my side, And then we talked about how you do the work, how I do the work. Looking at the you know, looking at the time we spent so far, maybe talk about what we're going to cover in the next episode. Mindy

Corbett: Yeah, so I think what we're going to delve into next is talking about setting boundaries. How you divide your work life from your home life when you are both working from home, because that can be a real challenge. Because there's sometimes that inability to split that. I think we kind of, we touched on that a little bit early on when we talked about that windshield time. And then how do you avoid burnout? how do you make sure that you are recognizing that in each other and how do you help prevent that? Because there's a lot of times when you are at home and you're working, those natural boundaries that you have when you're working in an office are not there anymore. And so Cale

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Mindy

Corbett: that inclination to keep going, even when you hit that breaking point, or what should be the end of the line, sometimes you just blow right past it. And that's what Cale was referring Cale

Corbett: Tough. Yeah. Mindy

Corbett: to when he was talking about hitting that brick wall. mean, there's times when you Cale

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Mindy

Corbett: are sitting there, especially the two of us, we're Cale

Corbett: Yeah. Mindy

Corbett: We will look at the clock and it's like 2 a.m. and we haven't stopped working. That's him. But for me, I will look at the clock and I haven't eaten. I haven't had anything to drink. I haven't gone to the bathroom. And it's been seven hours, eight hours, 12 hours. And these are the things that kind of we want to dive into because we really want to talk about what are some strategies for kind of working with that and trying to prevent some of those issues and setting some boundaries. Cale

Corbett: And let me jump in and say it's gonna be it's gonna be sort of precious you and I to give people advice on setting boundaries when we just talked about how we're horrible at giving ourselves bounds. But I think if nothing else, by you and I talking about this kind of thing in public, it'll do two things. It will sort of help other people who may be dealing with the same kinds of issues or something very similar to know that people that they know have the same deal. Mindy

Corbett: Mm hmm. Cale

Corbett: So they're not alone. It's not it's not just their challenge. and we're here to say w it's tough, it's a it's a daily struggle, it's a it's a it's a work in progress, so don't beat yourself up, right? And then number two, I think if we put it out there publicly, maybe we will hold ourselves accountable in a way that we wouldn't if we weren't telling everyone all of our dirty secrets like that. we may become better by talking about our foibles in public, which again is one of the premises of this whole thing. I also, if you can't if it if you don't mind, let me guide you to giving a real quick kind of call out to the whole red, green, yellow thing that I know you want to cover as part of that next time as well. Mindy

Corbett: Sure. So some of the things that I struggle with is I, there are times, especially when I'm working with numbers or I'm doing, you know, deep coding work or things like that, interruptions can really throw me off course. And I'm sure there are a lot of people who really struggle with that. And I was given the suggestion actually by our family doctor to set up a process of using a visual signal to let Cale know, if I was actually in an office situation to let people around me know that this is a time where you can interrupt me, or this is a time where you can't, by using those red, green, or yellow signals, similar to a traffic signal. Cale

Corbett: Mm, Mindy

Corbett: versions of this out there, but we'll talk about it a little bit on our next episode. But this same type of signal process can also be used for, you know, if you are neurodivergent or if you are somebody who's experiencing, you know, chronic illness or chronic pain, these same types of signals can be used to indicate kind of where you are, what type of situation you're in on any given day or at any given time to help manage those symptoms. And it's also very useful to help manage your day. So we'll talk about that a little bit. Cale

Corbett: Yeah, and I think anything to provide bounds for the person who's partnering with you or you know, I it gives me a chance to go, hey, is what I'm seeing important enough to push past the yellow, let's say. Like I would treat the red as do Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: not, you know, thou shalt not pass, you know, it's you know, but Mindy

Corbett: Right. Right. Cale

Corbett: but perhaps the yellow is like The yellow may be higher priority, or the Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: issue may be higher priority than your yellow. And I what I'll do is I'm gonna I'm gonna wrap up here this episode with s with a bit of a accountability or in the not accountability, but again sort of toward that my driver in everything I do is because you are my North Star. I am your ride or die. I am your I'm your wingman in all things. And so if with those with you as my North Star and me, you as my wingman and all I as your wingman and all that, my intentions are always honest and my intentions are always meant to be supportive and getting you what you need to be successful. If Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: we had a situation we're looking forward one year, two years, three years. your business was a roaring success and mine had folded. Fine. I would be so ecstatic. I wouldn't care because you got your wings underneath you and you became the champion of your destiny. And all I did was have a chance to kind of help you make that happen. You know? So that's how I do what I do and why I do it. And you know this, but it's one of those things where If I put it on tape from time to time, we can come back and go, yeah, that guy, he loves me a little bit. You know. And that and that's and I think I would share that with the folks who are watching and sticking through this because they may have a situation all kidding aside where if they're working with a spouse or near a spouse, check. Ask. I got a dollar Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: that says that person might be your wife. She may be your biggest champion and she may Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: be pushing and guiding and she may be so happy Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: to be quote the woman behind the man, as it were, you know, or Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cale

Corbett: I would rather I'm fine being the man behind the woman. I have no problem with that. You know. so any la Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Yep. And I'm going to get this. Cale

Corbett: any Mindy

Corbett: I was going to say, I'm going to get this quote wrong. I'm not going to get it exactly right. So this is going to be paraphrased. So think about, I'm mad about you. When Cale

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Mindy

Corbett: Paul said to Jamie, so Paul Raiser's character, Paul Raiser character to, Helen Hunt's character on, mad about you. If you haven't seen the show, it's, it was great. Go back and watch it. He said Cale

Corbett: Watch it. Go watch it. Yeah. Mindy

Corbett: to her something along the lines of, if I say something to you, and you could take it a bad way or a good way. I meant it the good way. Cale

Corbett: Yes. Yep. Mindy

Corbett: Because I don't always say things exactly right, but in my head, it's the good thing. So if it could be taken a good way or a bad way, I meant it the good way. Cale

Corbett: Yeah. You stole that for you stole that from me who stole that from Paul, but I'll let you have it. Mindy

Corbett: I'm just saying that's what Paul Reiser said. Cale

Corbett: You know, he did do or his writers, you know, or Mindy

Corbett: Yes. Cale

Corbett: you know, A and then two. You know, that's sort of you know A And and Mindy

Corbett: Yeah, say A. and two. Yeah. Cale

Corbett: if people again if you haven't watched Mad if you're listening to us and you're not completely turned off, go Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: watch Mad About You rerun street wherever you can get it. Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: it is it you know, I that ep those though that series was on a long time ago now, but it's almost like they were looking in a crystal ball toward what our marriage was going to be in the future. It's absolutely uncanny and it's just good writing is really all it is, but it's almost prophetic, you know, Mindy

Corbett: Mm-hmm. Cale

Corbett: in the notes it hits, you know, for you and I and it and it resonates even now. so Mindy

Corbett: Yeah. Cale

Corbett: we're gonna do it again we're gonna do it again. You know, we'll that this was A, we'll call next week two, you know, and Mindy

Corbett: That's right. Cale

Corbett: we'll come back and we'll do it some more. Mindy

Corbett: Alright. Cale

Corbett: All right, thank you.